Dundee Precious Metals Inc. (DPMLF) Q3 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

Dundee Precious Metals Inc. (OTCPK:DPMLF) Q3 2022 Earnings Conference Call November 11, 2022 9:00 AM ET

Company Participants

Jennifer Cameron – Director of Investor Relations

David Rae – President and Chief Executive Officer

Hume Kyle – Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Michael Dorfman – Executive Vice President of Corporate Development

Conference Call Participants

Trevor Turnbull – Scotiabank

Don DeMarco – National Bank


Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Dundee Precious Metals Third Quarter 2022 Earnings Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers’ presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today’s conference is being recorded.

I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Jennifer Cameron, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Jennifer Cameron

Thank you and good morning. I’m Jennifer Cameron, Director, Investor Relations, and I’d like to welcome you to Dundee Precious Metals third quarter conference call. Joining us today are David Rae, President and CEO; and Hume Kyle, Chief Financial Officer.

After the close of business yesterday, we released our third quarter results, and I hope you’ve had an opportunity to review our material.

All forward-looking information provided during this call is subject to the forward-looking qualification, which is detailed in our news release and incorporated in full for the purposes of today’s call. Certain financial measures referred to during this call are not measures recognized under IFRS and are referred to as non-GAAP measures or ratios. These measures have no standardized meaning under IFRS and may not be comparable to similar measures presented by other companies. The definitions established and calculations performed by DPM are based on management’s reasonable judgment and are consistently applied. These measures are intended to provide additional information and should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for measures prepared in accordance with IFRS. Please refer to the non-GAAP financial measures section of our most recent MD&A for reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures.

Also, please note that unless otherwise stated, operational and financial information communicated during this call are related to continuing operations and have generally been rounded. References to 2021 pertain to the comparable period in 2021, and references to averages are based on midpoints of our outlook or guidance.

I’ll now turn the call over to David Rae.

David Rae

Good morning and thank you all for joining us. I’m pleased to provide you with an overview of our third quarter and year-to-date results, and to provide some insight into our achievements over this period. Overall, we delivered strong performance, effectively managed our costs, and improved performance of smelter during the third quarter. We continue to generate strong free cash flow, and maintain our financial strength and flexibility, as well as focus on advancing our development projects and exploration activities. This morning, I’ll briefly review our third quarter results, operational performance, and other growth activities before handing the call over to Hume to discuss our financial results and outlook.

Highlights from our third quarter include strong productions of approximately 64,000 ounces of gold, and 7 million pounds of copper, all-in sustaining cost performance of $991 per ounce of gold, solid free cash flow generation of $42 million, and continued financial strength exiting the quarter with a cash balance of $420 million. With strong goals in copper production and a year-to-date all-in sustaining cost of $839 per ounce of gold sold, we are well-positioned to achieve our guidance targets for 2022. Notably, we achieved these results while maintaining an impressive safety record, and I’m pleased to share that our Bulgarian operations recently achieved 5 million hours without a lost-time incident. This is a significant accomplishment that speaks to our strong culture of prioritizing the safety and wellbeing of our people first.

Turning now to the highlights from our operations, I’ll start with Chelopech. Chelopech delivered gold production in line with our expectations, producing approximately 43,000 ounces with an all-in sustaining cost of just over $1,090 per ounces sold, and 7 million pounds of copper. Chelopech remains on track to achieve its 2022 production and cost guidance for the year. Chelopech’s results for the third quarter reflect all concentrate shipments going to Tsumeb, where the treatment costs are higher compared with other third-party smelters that treat its concentrate. During the first quarter of this year, Chelopech produced a lower grade of copper gold concentrate suitable for third-party smelters, and this resulted in improved copper and gold recoveries and lower treatment charges during those periods.

In the second and third quarters of the year, we produced a grade suitable for Tsumeb, and that, in Q4, we have returned to producing the lower-grade concentrate suitable for processing by third-party smelters in the fourth quarter. We continue to focus on extending Chelopech’s mine life through our successful in-mine exploration program, and the growing Brownfield exploration program. During the third quarter, we drilled over 23,000 meters, which were focused on testing the mineralization potential of the Sharlo Dere prospect, which is located within the mine concession, as well as continuing the intent of drilling campaign focused on Sveta Petka. The drill campaign, which is intended to support an application for a commercial discovery of Sveta Petka, in 2023, is planned to continue for the balance of the year.

With a mine life that extends to 2030, an updated mineral resource base, and increased in-mine and Brownfield exploration drilling, we believe there’s strong potential to continue our track record of mine life extensions at Chelopech. During the third quarter, Ada Tepe produced approximately 20,800 ounces of gold at an all-in sustaining cost of $800 per ounces sold. Per the mine plan, we’ve been focusing on completing Pushback 2 in the first three quarters of the year, with grades expected to increase in the fourth quarter as we come out of that work. With the production in line with our expectations year-to-date, Ada Tepe is on track to achieve its 2022 guidance.

We do continue our exploration efforts around Ada Tepe, and at the moment we’re drilling approximately [5,200] [Ph] meters of exploration and doing — sorry, completing [600] [Ph] meters of exploration in the third quarter largely focused on the Chiirite and Dalbokata Reka exploration licenses. Tsumeb achieved a significant improvement in performance during the third quarter following the completion of the Ausmelt maintenance shutdown at the end of the second quarter.

As the smelter ramped up to full production after six days in the third quarter, processed approximately 64,000 tonnes of complex concentrate, and if you calculate back the ratio, that comes to what is a near-record level of quarterly production, which is a confidence-building activity for the smelter, given our efforts towards [P300] [Ph].

Tsumeb is on track to meet its 2022 guidance, although we expect to come in towards the lower-end of the range due to additional maintenance activity currently underway. In the quarter, we recorded an $85 million non-cash impairment charge at Tsumeb. This is largely a result of lower forecast total revenue as a result of an expected reduction in third-party concentrate feed being received by the smelter, starting in 2024. And concurrent with when the smelter will not be processing Chelopech concentrate.

Processing Chelopech concentrate at third-party smelters allows us to realize better commercial terms, lower treatment charges, and improved gold recoveries at Chelopech, as I mentioned earlier. While this is expected to generate additional overall value for the company, it will be realized through lower treatment charges and higher margins at Chelopech, rather than higher throughput and higher margins at Tsumeb. This also contributed to an increase in our Chelopech mineral reserve, which we announced in the first quarter of this year. As we decrease the amount of Chelopech concentrate we process at Tsumeb, we remain confident that third-party [support is still] [Ph] available to fill the smelter’s existing capacity going forward.

Tsumeb’s third quarter cash cost of $297 per tonne represents a significant decrease compared to the prior quarter, reflecting, in part, the benefits of the cost optimization initiative which commenced earlier this year. This was directed at enhancing the smelter’s ability to compete for additional third-party supply of concentrate and improve the overall profitability of the business.

In terms of future growth, we continue to advance the Loma Larga project with work on the revised feasibility study progressing well. We expect to complete the feasibility study by year-end, and to share the results in the first quarter of 2023. We also progressed discussion in respect of an investor protection agreement with the government, and we expect [technical difficulty] any significant capital to the project. Our drilling activities at Loma Larga remain paused pending the outcome of the appeals process related to the decision on the Constitutional Protection Action. This appeal was heard by the courts in mid October, and we’re currently awaiting a decision on the matter.

As we advance the project, our team is proactively working with stakeholders to obtain the project’s social license. We have increased our dialogue with local stakeholders to provide more visibility to certain aspects of the project that are of high interest in the local community. And we are maintaining a constructive dialog with all government institutions involved in the development of the project.

Turning to the Timok project in Serbia, we continue to progress the feasibility study. While we have seen inflationary pressures on the capital and operating budgets consistent with general industry trend, we are continuing to optimize capital expenditures in the mine plant. As a result, we now expect to [technical difficulty] the feasibility study in the first quarter of next year. In terms of exploration, we received the exploration permit for the prospective Čoka Rakita target, which is located southeast of the Timok deposits. And we initiated a 30 [technical difficulty] program in late October. Once we complete feasibility study in Timok, we expect to focus on exploration of Čoka Rakita prior to any further advancement of the project.

To wrap on the quarter, our strong production profile and significant free cash flow generation combined with our operating track record and strong ESG performance, positions us well to continue delivering value for all of our stakeholders. We are committed to deploying our capital in a disciplined manner that we demonstrate with our investment in optimizing our efforts and advancing our organic pipeline. We also continue to pay a sustainable quarterly dividend. And we have purchased approximately $2.5 million shares in 2022 year-to-date. We are confident that DPM’s strong fundamentals continue to represent the compelling value opportunity for investors particularly at current share price levels.

I will now turn the call over to Hume for a review of our financial results and outlook. Following which, we will open the call to questions.

Hume Kyle

Thanks, David. Excuse me. I’ll begin by reviewing the third quarter and the year-to-date financial results. After which, I’ll touch on the balance of year and future outlooks followed by financial position and capital allocation. For the third quarter and first nine months of 2022, we generated an adjusted net earnings of $25 million and $96 million. This trend is opened to $0.13 and $0.50 per share compared to $53 million and $150 million or $0.28 and $0.82 per share in the corresponding periods in 2021.

For the quarter, this decrease is primarily attributable to lower volumes of metal sold principally due to lower expected grades, higher local currency, mine operating cost, higher treatment and freight charges as well as lower realized metal prices that were partially offset by the stronger U.S. dollar, and improved operating and cost performance at Tsumeb. Our nine months results are largely reflected by these same factors with the exception that year-to-date results reflected higher realized metal and sulfuric acid prices, as well as higher metal coverage at Tsumeb, which helped to offset lower throughput.

As Dave mentioned earlier, we recorded an $85 million impairment charges in respect of Tsumeb in third quarter. And as a result, reported a net loss attributable to common shareholders for the quarter of $58 million and for the nine months $2.6 million. And this compared with net earnings of $50 million and $139 million in 2021. In terms of our cash flow metrics, third quarter and year-to-date cash flow from operations before changes in working capital was $55 million and $172 million, while free cash flow which also reflects outlays for sustaining capital was $43 million and $133 million. These results were both lower than the corresponding periods in 2021 due primarily to same factors impacting adjusted earnings. The most significant which was lower volumes of metal sold related to lower expected grade.

Turning to our key cost measures, as expected, costs were up over 2021 levels, but remained in line with guidance. Our consolidated all-in sustaining cost for the quarter and for the first nine months was $991 and $839 respectively. These were up 35% and 40% relative to 2021 due primarily to higher freight and treatment charges, lower volumes of gold sold, higher prices for electricity and direct materials in Bulgaria, partially offset by a stronger U.S. dollar and the favorable impact of the Bulgarian government power subsidy.

Tsumeb cash cost per ton for the quarter was $297. This was down $96 compared to 2021 due principally to higher throughput, lower labor cost, higher sulfuric acid byproduct credits, and a stronger U.S. dollar. Cash cost per ton for the first nine months was $470 or $22 below 2021. And this was due to higher asset prices and lower labor costs, partially offset by lower throughput and higher external costs related to Tsumeb cost optimization initiative.

From a capital expenditure standpoint, sustaining capital incurred during the quarter and first nine months of $12 million and $42 million respectively. We’re essentially comparable to 2021 at $11 million and $40 million. Growth capital expenditures incurred in the quarter and for the first nine months of 2022 were $7 million and $21 million compared to $4 million and $10 million in 2021. And this was due primarily to the activities related to the development of Loma Larga and Timok co-project.

Looking ahead to the balance of the year, we’re expecting another solid quarter of performance, at Chelopech and Ada Tepe, we expect production to be above the quarterly average achieve during the first three quarters, which together with year to-date production is on track to meet our 2022 production guidance of 250,000 to 290,000 ounces of gold and 32 million to 37 million pounds of copper.

Forecast 2022 cash costs at each mine and our consolidated all-in sustaining costs are expected to be in line with guidance with our operating cost at each mine expected to be at the lower end of the range, reflecting the impact of the strong U.S. dollar in the Bulgarian power subsidy, while all-in sustaining costs is expected to be at the higher end of the range of $750 to $890, reflecting the recent drop in copper prices.

For 2023 and 2024, our current outlook for all-in sustain costs of $590 to $700 for 2023 and $690 to $800 for 2024 is being reviewed as part of our regular annual planning and budgeting process, which takes into account, among other things, updated operating plans as well as external market factors including copper price, local inflation, and foreign exchange rates relative to the U.S. dollar, which at this stage in aggregate has the potential to increase the company’s all-in sustaining cost outlook by roughly $25 million in 2023 and 15% in 2024.

Consistent with prior years, we expect to provide an updated three-year outlook in respect of our production operating costs and capital expenditures for 2023 through 2025, including a detailed 2023 set of guidance metrics. That will be released around the annual results in February 2023. Assume that, as Dave mentioned, we expect 2022 throughput to be low at the lower end of our 185,000 to 200,000 tonne guidance and cash costs to be between $420 and $480 per tonne, which at this stage is likely to be closer to the lower end of the range, reflecting the strong U.S. dollar and increased cost savings from Tsumeb cost optimization initiative.

Finally, we have increased our 2022 guidance and respective exploration costs, which are now expected to be between $22 million and $25 million, up from $16 million to $19 million, reflecting higher drilling activity in Bulgaria and the commencement of drilling at Čoka Rakita, Serbia, following receipt of our exploration permit in October 22.

In closing, while we continue to face inflationary cost pressures, we delivered another strong quarter of operating performance from our mining operations as well as near record operating performance from Tsumeb and are on track to achieve our 2022 production and cost guidance and in turn add to our year-to-date free cash flow generation of $133 million.

As part of our overall capital allocation framework, we continue to allocate a portion of our free cash flow to shareholders in the form of a sustainable quarterly dividend to $0.04 and from time to time to share buybacks under our normal course issuer bid. For the first nine months in 2022, we purchased approximately 14 million of shares under the NCIB and we paid out $23 million in dividends for combined total of $37 million or 27% of our year-to-date cash flow.

At quarter end, we ended with $420 million in cash, no debt, and continued strong free cash flow generation. I believe we are well-positioned to fund future growth opportunities and generate additional value for stakeholders, while continuing to return capital to our shareholders.

And with that, I’ll turn the call back to Dave before we open the call for questions.

David Rae

Thanks, Hume. I want to share a few additional comments before we open the call to questions. You’ll have seen that we announced the appointment of Navin Dyal as the Chief Finance Officer, effective November 14. Navin joins us with significant mining experience and a proven track record of success, and I’m pleased to have someone of his caliber joining our executive team.

Navin’s appointment follows our announcements, in September, regarding Hume’s retirement. And Hume is providing his full support to ensure a smooth transition through to the end of the year. I hope you’ll all join me in recognizing Hume’s significant accomplishments throughout his years with DPM, and wishing him the very best in his retirement.

Now, I’ll be happy to open up the call for any questions.

Question-and-Answer Session


[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Trevor Turnbull with Scotiabank. Your line is now open.

Trevor Turnbull

Thank you, David. And congratulations again to Hume on retirement, and to Navin who, obviously, joining soon. My first question is about the revised feasibility that you guys are working on for Loma Larga. My initial impression was that you wanted to complete some drilling as part of the tradeoff studies for that feasibility. And, obviously, that’s been delayed somewhat in terms of the drilling. I just wondered if you could speak to how that deferred drilling might impact the results of those tradeoffs that you were doing, and if it has any impact on the revised feasibility?

David Rae

Yes, thanks, Trevor. And it really depends on how long it takes us to get the mission to go ahead and do some drilling. So, the work that was planned there, I think if I recall correctly, 18,000 meters, is a combination of condemnation drilling, geotechnical drilling, hydrogeological drilling, and it’s really — and a small amount of additional metallurgical work. And it’s really focused on completing the confirmation of our assumptions, particularly around the location of our major installations and facilities, and the assumptions in terms of earthworks [and studies] [Ph]. So, if you would recall, if you go back to Ada Tepe, we were in exactly the same position with Ada Tepe, where we had to wait for the construction permit in order to be able to do the drilling.

So, this is not unusual in terms of how we’ve done things historically. Although our hope is that what will happen is that the October hearing translates into a relatively short-term decision from the courts, favorable, which allows us to go back and commence drilling. If the drilling gets delayed through to, let’s say, the middle of [November] [Ph] next year, and we — and that will start to impact where we would like to be in terms of progressing a feasibility study of confidence. We’re very conscious of the fact that there’s been a number of very high profile problems related to people trying to commence work without making sure there’s the appropriate due diligence and understanding at the earthworks and [civils] [Ph] requirements.

Trevor Turnbull

So, you still would really anticipate being able to complete that so that that information can get — make the revised feasibility as robust as it can be?

David Rae

So, maybe I should — we’re continuing with the feasibility work. And the intent is that we complete that and publish it. But it will be then subject to some additional drilling. Now, unless we get the drilling permission in the very near-term, in which case we may choose to wait and just complete that drilling and get the further work. But at this point, the idea is that the feasibility study is working towards completion absent that. And then it will be part of the detailed engineering prior to commencing the construction decision.

Trevor Turnbull

Okay, yes, that’s where I wasn’t entirely clear. So, perfect, thank you. The only other question I had is just going back to Tsumeb. We’ve talked about this before, but your comments, that it sounded like the Chelopech ore would no longer be going down to Tsumeb after — or starting in 2024. And I just wondered how confident you were that that would be the case metallurgically, and that you won’t have need for Tsumeb as a home for that Chelopech complex concentrate in the future. And if you’re able to place it as you have been elsewhere at better terms, can you talk a little bit about again what that might mean for Tsumeb’s strategic value for Dundee?

David Rae

Okay. So, we are confident that there are concentrates in the market. They’re going to be at different terms to what we would get from treating Chelopech concentrates, and hence the need to reconsider the valuation of the asset, while, on the whole, it’s better for [DP] [Ph] to be placing our concentrates elsewhere. So, we obviously are well-positioned to have the smelter as a fallback in the event that we’re unable to place our concentrates into the global market. And we’ll obviously watch to see if there are any risks that are emerging that may cause us to continue to use that facility. But at this point, the plan is what we’re going to do is, instead of having two quarters of production this year produced at a higher grade of copper to go to Tsumeb, we will only have one quarter of production in 2023, and we’ll have no production in 2024.

Hume, did you want to add anything in terms of the overall picture of supply concentrates on the commercial side?

Hume Kyle

Yes, I mean I think you’ve summarized it well. But I’d say, I think the — what we’re seeing is there is quite a bit of concentrate that would be suitable to go to Tsumeb, but there’s not as much really high arsenic material that’s suitable for Tsumeb and the ability for Tsumeb to process it because it has to have a certain content, not just with respect to arsenic but also sulfur. So, we do see certainly enough concentrate up there to fill Tsumeb, it’s just going to be at a lower [toll] [Ph] rate than what Tsumeb would have got for Chelopech, as Dave mentioned. And as we sort of highlighted in the impairment discussion, it’s going to be at a lower rate than we foresaw several months ago principally because we just see a little bit less material coming from one of our major suppliers historically.

We anticipated that there would be an increase of throughput that at this stage is not likely to happen in the same order of magnitude. They’ll still remain a major customer, very attractive toll rate, but we’ll have to fill that with lower toll revenue.

Trevor Turnbull


David Rae

So, to your last point, Trevor, the need for Tsumeb in terms of our future picture, clearly it’s not as important strategically as it has been historically, and we continue to work at till we have the smelter in order to bring the costs and performance into a level which is more competitive to allow them to either attract our concentrates or other concentrates. But our base assumption is that our Chelopech concentrate will go elsewhere. There are other factors that we’ll consider in that decision, but at this point there’s no doubt that the smelter has less strategic importance to DPM at this point, and for what we can foresee in the near-future.

Trevor Turnbull


Hume Kyle

And maybe on last — you said too, Dave, and we’ve said this a couple of years ago, and all the way along, and this quarter as well, is that historically Tsumeb has benefited from a long-term contract that has been in place with Chelopech entered into before we even acquired the facility that was a cost-plus contract. And [technical difficulty] we anticipate will go away probably around the end of 2024. And so, at that point in time, you’ll see Chelopech with the full benefits of lower TCs and a situation where Tsumeb is standalone, 100% third-party concentrate. And that’s why the P300 initiative is so important in terms of cost reduction. I think we need Tsumeb to essentially be at least breakeven, which is what we’re hoping for. We’ve sort of said historically, zero to $10 million of cash flow, I would say that it would be at the lower-end of the range.

But then it still serves a purpose as a strategic alternative to Chelopech in the event that if market circumstances change, and for some reason we’re not able to place the material where we currently think we’re going to place it, then we always would have Tsumeb as the backstop. And it’s a cheap backstop, not a backstop that’s going to cost a lot of money.

Trevor Turnbull

Right. And maybe can you just remind me roughly what that incremental benefit on not having the cost-plus toll charges versus using the third parties that you have been, can you give me a rough estimate of kind of what that’s been reflecting each quarter or historically so far?

Hume Kyle

Well, yes, I’ll make it really rough, if you don’t mind. And I mean it is very variable, but if we were just looking at market to Chelopech cost, I would just say, roughly speaking, it would be — it could be 75% to 100% more than what Chelopech can do. So, it’s quite substantial.

Trevor Turnbull

Understood. Okay, yes, that’s really helpful color. Thank you both.

David Rae

Thanks, Trevor.


[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Don DeMarco with National Bank. Your line is now open.

Don DeMarco

Thank you, Operator, and good morning, everyone. And first off, welcome to Navin, and best wishes to Hume on next steps. So, I’d like to start with just continuing discussion on Tsumeb. So, if you’re looking to keep Tsumeb as a fallback for Chelopech, can we view the decreased reliance on Tsumeb as not a precursor to divestment and longer-term, does Tsumeb have any utility or synergies potentially with Loma Larga?

David Rae

Right. Let’s start with the Loma Larga. So, Loma Larga will generate a concentrate 10,000 tonnes, which has an arsenic content, which is elevated relative to green concentrates globally. However, it — for the same reason that we are anticipating placing all of our concentrate from Chelopech in the market outside of the thing that we would expect the same the Loma Larga. So, there is a link in this — if we have a concentrated need to fill it in circumstances suggest that it’s the right thing, so the costs were lower and there to be some sort of constraints on the ability to place internationally, then we can place Loma Larga concentrate that obviously that like I said, the volume is pretty low.

So, in terms of, is this a precursor to divestment? I would say we’re open to all options. We’re not wedded to any one of our facilities, but we do like to think that we do what is right in terms of the overall valuation of the assets creating the right opportunity, making sure that we do what we need to in terms of our stakeholders, both internal and external. So, at this point, we work on the basis that we are trying to put our best foot forward with Tsumeb that has meant significant activity this year, and the team has done an exceptional job in reducing the number of people on the site by more than 20% by, with that smaller number, bringing the operation back up and performing the way they did in Q3. And we believe there’s still more in terms of that potential. So, the bottom line is that the smelter has a number of potential opportunities, the germanium on that property, which may be a future opportunity for treatment. There are other materials that can be treated internationally, which have not been typical targets or feed for the smelter and could potentially come into this.

So, I would say overall at this point, we’ve given you the baseline view of our expectation where we expect to put all Chelopech concentrate to the international market and not Tsumeb. At the same time, we believe that we control the smelter and success with continued work along the lines of P300 will make that something that is breakeven as opposed to a loss making prospect.

Don DeMarco

Okay. Yes.

Hume Kyle

Yes, like even though as we see the marketplace, we’re highly confident that we can place all of our Chelopech material elsewhere substantially lower, TCs, RCs, and freight. So, the net economics are quite attractive to Chelopech. And we could do that for long-term, we could enter into a long-term frame agreement as well. There is that utility with respect to Tsumeb as Dave said, but it doesn’t mean we wouldn’t consider divestiture, at the right price and at the right circumstances, whether we were to in doing that transaction actually do it where we maintained an option to put some concentrate of Chelopech and not Tsumeb, that considered just to deal with the — that potential risk, not that we see as being likely or even it’s really just a remote risk, I think or a low probability risk, but I think there still might be some value in having that kind of arrangement just in case.

Don DeMarco

Okay. Okay. Well, thank you for all that color. For my next question, so we see costs are up in the quarter. Is this the new normal given inflationary pressures or would you expect costs to draw back in line with, say, the three-year outlook that was released in Q1 of this year?

Hume Kyle

Okay. I’ll try to feel that question. Frankly, first off, don’t know is probably the honest answer because I probably would be on record of saying, previous years that as we were going through COVID that I viewed this as being temporary and in due course I did see things reverting. And then don’t you know, you got the Ukraine invasion that just exasperated things. We’ve now had even further elevated levels of inflation. So, it’s persisted longer than I would’ve expected. And you probably know better than anybody in your world that going back to the previous levels that we foresaw like from an inflation standpoint is like — unlikely in the near-term, we’re probably going to see a higher level of inflation. But that said, I just can’t imagine that they are going to be this level of inflation that we are currently seeing globally and in each of the jurisdictions within which we operate. So, I do see and anticipate inflation moderating. Our guidance it doesn’t really — I guess what I would say is we expect a continued level of high inflation in 2023. That’s what our guidance is based on.

For 2024, there is a little bit of additional cost that was put in but not much. It was principally around power. Essentially, we see prices in remaining at a lower level of inflation going into 2024. But who knows and like what we are seeing for the most part in addition to just general inflation is just extreme increases on commodities and [technical difficulty] materials. And then in the case of Bulgaria both Ada Tepe and Chelopech, an extreme power environment or prices have gone up like to astronomical levels at times.

I think that in the past it was maybe $50 per megawatt on average. And those prices at point exceeded $500. And I think the average this past year was like let’s say around $300 or somewhere in that range. So, it’s been very, very high. And we have been fortunate to have that power exposures subsidized through the Bulgarian [technical difficulty] which has eventually mitigated a good portion of it. So, from our standpoint, prices are probably up 125% relative to the $50 that I referred to previously. And the government has recently confirmed that they intend to continue the subsidy out to end of 2023 which is actually quite positive because in 2022, they really just did on a quarterly basis. And now, they have actually made it clear to industry that they will keep this in place till the end of 2023.

Don DeMarco

Okay. Well, thank you for that. Maybe as a final question, I’ll just shift to a little bit of corporate developmental strategy looking forward. I know we still have four plus years left on Ada Tape, but in the event of Loma Larga permitting or development for any reason is slowed, are you considering any alternate options as a potential replacement for Ada Tape?

David Rae

So, we continue as I think most companies do to look for opportunities in the market for projects which makes sense for DPM and can be not for share at regions. So, we continue to monitor opportunities like that. And I think we are well positioned if you have a look at our current balance sheet to be able to act on such opportunities. And obviously, that 2026 that time window is something that we are recognizing there is a risk in terms of our overall production.

Loma Larga, I believe is going to be continued — let’s say we would expect to get continued with this [Timok gold] [Ph] project. It is the nature of these types of things. We are confident that we can push through that and deliver this project into that window. But we are not using that as the fail safe for what we do going forward. So, we do continue to monitor opportunities. We do look for map the share accretive options. And if we find the right project which is a good fit for DPM, we certainly be instantly acting on it. So, what I would say is that, we continue a healthy M&A target list as I think most companies do. We are well-positioned to do something if an opportunity comes up, but we don’t feel compelled, or let’s say, do something urgent. We will just be it, if we feel that there is an opportunity for us, given the assets.

Michael, do you want to add anything?

Michael Dorfman

I think you covered it very well, nothing further to add there.

David Rae

Thanks, Don.

Don DeMarco

Thank you. That’s all from me. And, thank you, David and team. And good luck with the rest of the year.

David Rae

Okay, thanks, Don.


At this time, I show no further questions. I would now like to turn the conference back to Jennifer Cameron for closing remarks.

Jennifer Cameron

Thank you everyone for joining us today. If you have any further questions, please feel free to reach out. And we look forward to keeping you updated on our progress as we move forward. Thanks a lot and take care.


This concludes today’s conference call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect.

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